Gecko Runner Hareka
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Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.09.14 11:47:00 -
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GM Grimmi wrote:We cannot go into specifics as each report is different and this will just end up leading into a circular argument of GÇ£ifsGÇ¥ and GÇ£butsGÇ¥. We will say that impersonation cases are handled on a case by case basis by experienced GMs and there is no change in how such cases will be handled from now from how they were handled a year ago.
Ok, then just let's get out the space lawyers. We are paying for a product with a TOS that has changed, and as long as we conform to cases that have not lead to banning in the past, we are on the safe side. So we just have to digg out case law of past decisions to be on the safe side... do you really want this -i mean really, and not as a PR "put out the fire" stunt?
As you are not going into specifics the only basic rule can be destilled from what you said - as a representative of those senior "Crowd Control Production" gamedesigners, who are likely responsible for this mess and letting you take the fall for their inability to formulate a clear statement.
So here is what I am working with what YOU said: "there is no change in how such cases will be handled from now from how they were handled a year ago":
* It is allowed to chat with someone to get him romantically engaged to steal all his allys assets (thx haven't tried that one) - why? Involved parties still play and have not been banned. Check.
* It is allowed to steal anything from TEST (should def try that one). Why: Involved parties still play and have not been banned. Check.
and the list goes on...
Fun times ahead... the problem here is that EVE just has such a loyal fanbase BECAUSE of the scams and the danger.. if we wanted a walled garden we could just stop playing eve at all, because we all got the new X and Star Citizen and will try int and come back to EVE anyway...
It is a miscalculation of who your playerbase is: we are not 14 years old, most of us are around 25-35 and WANT somethign a little darker than "Space Ponies in Rainbowland".
And it is also a PR-misconception: The main reason why eve is in the press at all is BECAUSE scams are allowed and this is a welcome contrast to the us-based secure walled garden games. I read about eve in the mainstream press just because someone was scammed... and it want downhill from there until I started playing ;)
DISCLAIMER: I hate Scammers and also lost some stuff to them. But it is an ESSENTIAL part of the game to make it a dangerous, lawless space. And there are enough possibilities to check up on chars, both in-game and with all the meta info pages out there. So after being angry I actually valued the experience (not that I want to repeat it) as something different and great in EVE. |
Gecko Runner Hareka
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.09.16 22:57:00 -
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GM Karidor wrote:To throw the ball back to you:
In the hypothetical situation that we were to take no action in such cases, you'd be rather annoyed about Joe once you got wind that he's ruining your hard earned reputation, wouldn't you? Given that such characters as Joe usually don't go about wandering in space very often, you'd have no real recourse of hounding him down until the end of time either.
I would personally hate it... but that's eve - and it's expected game content right with the cloaky campers and all the other annoying stuff I love and hate :P A space game where there are severe limitation to what scams and bad stuff I could hypothetically still do does not sound like eve. I would prefer if you could find an in-game solution that is optional to work around it... if you really must. |